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Nope, I'm not over reacting at all. As a musician I feel a =
responsibility to point out real garbage when I see or hear it. Some =
kid is gonna hear that ad and go to his/her vocal jazz teacher and tell =
em I want to sound just like that girl on the Burger King ad. yeah, =
call me a purist and a nit-picker but I will not settle for garbage =
anywhere, especiall when it comes to the art I spent so many years =
working to perfect. If you like bathing in aural shit, then by all =
means, listen to the ad and eat some fat.=20
Win Hinkle, The Bill Evans Jazz Resource, http://www.34skid.com
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Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 3:20 AM
Subject: discussion-l Digest - V01 #324
discussion-l Digest Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:03:43 Pacific Daylight Time =
V01 #324
Today's topics:
'boycott Burger King'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
'FUN, JAZZY & A GGOD TIME @ BURGER KING!!'
'No Moon At All'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
'Re[2]: boycott Burger King'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 05:05:33 -0400
From: "win hinkle" <winhink@mindspring.com>
Subject: boycott Burger King
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The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous affront to =
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all jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until that =
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horrible abomination is taken off the air.
I refer to the 30 second spot where some total idiot who thinks she s a =
=3D
jazz singer attempts to scat sing her way through the "special orders =
=3D
don t upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously out of =
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tune, has a terrible voice better left unheard, and has absolutely no =
=3D
clue as to the art of jazz improvisation, much less, scat singing. I =3D
especially cringe when she relapses into the lower register and goes =3D
into kind of a folk-singer s nanny-goat substitute for vibrato.
I suspect the ad agency responsible for this aural excrement has a =3D
distinct disdain for music. I m reminded also of the inane "classical =
=3D
music is boring" featuring a cellist a few months ago. The person =3D
responsible for the ad is a total musical illiterate or really hates the =
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art by putting such crap on the air.
Please circulate this to as many music lovers as possible.
Win Hinkle
34skid.com
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The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous affront to = =3D all=3D20 jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until that =3D horrible=3D20 abomination is taken off the air.
I refer to the 30 second spot where some total idiot who thinks she s = =3D a jazz=3D20 singer attempts to scat sing her way through the "special orders = =3D don t=3D20 upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously out of =3D tune, has a=3D20 terrible voice better left unheard, and has absolutely no clue as to the = =3D art of=3D20 jazz improvisation, much less, scat singing. I especially cringe when = =3D she=3D20 relapses into the lower register and goes into kind of a folk-singer = s=3D20 nanny-goat substitute for vibrato.
I suspect the ad agency responsible for this aural excrement has a = =3D distinct=3D20 disdain for music. I m reminded also of the inane "classical music = =3D is=3D20 boring" featuring a cellist a few months ago. The person =3D responsible for=3D20 the ad is a total musical illiterate or really hates the art by putting = =3D such=3D20 crap on the air.
Please circulate this to as many music lovers as possible.
Win Hinkle
34skid.com
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The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous affront = to all >jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until that = horrible >abomination is taken off the air.
> >> >
I refer to the 30 second spot where some total idiot who thinks she = s a jazz >singer attempts to scat sing her way through the "special orders = don t >upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously out of = tune, has a >terrible voice better left unheard, and has absolutely no clue as to = the art of >jazz improvisation, much less, scat singing. I especially cringe when = she >relapses into the lower register and goes into kind of a folk-singer s >nanny-goat substitute for vibrato.
> >> >
I suspect the ad agency responsible for this aural excrement has a = distinct >disdain for music. I m reminded also of the inane "classical music = is >boring" featuring a cellist a few months ago. The person = responsible for >the ad is a total musical illiterate or really hates the art by putting = such >crap on the air.
> >> >
Please circulate this to as many music lovers as possible.
> >> >
Win Hinkle
> >34skid.com
> >> > > > > Geez man you need to buy yourself some decaf! What's the big deal??? I = mean, should we really raise hell. Its like I think.....Kenny G should NOT be = in the jazz section at the cd store! But I won't boycot the cd store cause = of it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:58:44 -0400 (EDT) From: LNadien@aol.com Subject: Re: boycott Burger King You should boycott this and other fast food chains, not because of 30 = second comercials, but for reasons pertaining to health. The burgers contain = over 50% fat, which is devastating to your cholestral count! Need I say more. LNADIEN@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:02:17 -0500 From: DBay@AICI.COM (Dick Bay) Subject: Re[2]: boycott Burger King Well, it's not Betty Carter, but I still find it reasonably = enjoyable as TV jingles go. But if it makes you feel any better, I already boycott Burger King, just by virtue of being a vegetarian who = avoids junk food. =20 --Dick Bay * DBay@aici.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:07:40 -0400 (EDT) From: SaxtetLee@aol.com Subject: Re: boycott Burger King In a message dated 97-07-21 05:20:22 EDT, you write: > > The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous affront to = all > jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until that horrible > abomination is taken off the air. >=20 Don't you think you are overreacting...maybe just a bit. Lee Elderton ------------------------------ End of discussion-l Digest V01 #324 ***********************************=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC97A8.D0CFA3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nope, I'm not over = reacting at all. As=20 a musician I feel a responsibility to point out real garbage when I see = or hear=20 it. Some kid is gonna hear that ad and go to his/her vocal jazz teacher = and=20 tell em I want to sound just like that girl on the Burger King ad. = yeah, call=20 me a purist and a nit-picker but I will not settle for garbage anywhere, = especiall when it comes to the art I spent so many years working to = perfect. If=20 you like bathing in aural shit, then by all means, listen to the ad and = eat some=20 fat.
Win Hinkle, The Bill Evans =
Jazz=20
Resource, http://www.34skid.com
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From: discussion-l-request@justjazz.com
To: jazz discussion <discussion-l@justjazz.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 22, 1997 3:20 AM
Subject: discussion-l Digest - V01 #324
discussion-l Digest Tue, 22 =
Jul 1997=20
00:03:43 Pacific Daylight Time V01 #324
Today's topics:
'boycott Burger King'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
'FUN, JAZZY & A GGOD TIME @ BURGER =
KING!!'
'No Moon At All'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
'Re[2]: boycott Burger King'
'Re: boycott Burger King'
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 05:05:33 -0400
From: "win hinkle" <
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Subject: boycott Burger King
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The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous affront to =
=3D
all jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until that =
=3D
horrible abomination is taken off the air.
I refer to the 30 second spot where some total idiot who thinks she s a =
=3D
jazz singer attempts to scat sing her way through the "special =
orders =3D
don t upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously out =
of =3D
tune, has a terrible voice better left unheard, and has absolutely no =
=3D
clue as to the art of jazz improvisation, much less, scat singing. I =
=3D
especially cringe when she relapses into the lower register and goes =
=3D
into kind of a folk-singer s nanny-goat substitute for vibrato.
I suspect the ad agency responsible for this aural excrement has a =
=3D
distinct disdain for music. I m reminded also of the inane =
"classical =3D
music is boring" featuring a cellist a few months ago. The person =
=3D
responsible for the ad is a total musical illiterate or really hates the =
=3D
art by putting such crap on the air.
Please circulate this to as many music lovers as possible.
Win Hinkle
34skid.com
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<P>I refer to the 30 second spot where some total idiot who thinks =
she s=20
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a jazz=3D20
singer attempts to scat sing her way through the "special =
orders =3D
don t=3D20
upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously out of =
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tune, has a=3D20
terrible voice better left unheard, and has absolutely no clue as to the =
=3D
art of=3D20
jazz improvisation, much less, scat singing. I especially cringe when =
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has a=20
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music=20
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:23:35 -0400
From: Mitch <
Subject: Re: boycott Burger King
win hinkle wrote:
>
> [ranting]
>
>
> Please circulate this to as many music lovers as possible.
>
>
>
> Win Hinkle
>
Wow. Imagine what you could accomplish if you directed such energy =
to
something worthwhile.
:)
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:16:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Corradetti@aol.com
Subject: FUN, JAZZY & A GGOD TIME @ BURGER KING!!
I guess you are really mad about that ad !!
I didn't think it was so bad at all personally. I kind of enjoy it =
actually.
It's fun, in good spirits, and delivers a good message using the old =
Burger
King jingle.
It is entertaining, not out of tune, and she scatted decently given the =
time
frame and the application, (TV commercial). I think she did an =
exceptional
job, made it enjoyable for the TV audience, kept it "in", and =
wailed=20
on it. I
don't think it has to be "out" to be good!!! Quite the =
opposite!=20
Fun, jazzy,
and a good time at Burger King was the message! I guess you don't get =
many
jingle dates!
That's it, take it at face value, and try to enjoy things a little more, =
will
ya? Don't be so harsh, doggonit !
Mark A Corradetti
corradetti@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:22:27 -0600
From: "Cipolla, Marco" <
Subject: No Moon At All
Greetings All
I'm Marco, I'm writing from the UK and this is my first=20
"contribution"
to the discussion.
I have been on the list for a few months now. The list is great: =
thanks.
I have learned a lot but must admit that although I have been =
playing
the classical guitar for many years, I am new to many concepts about
harmony and I find it difficult to follow some of the topics you =
have
been discussing since I joined the group. Can someone explain what a
plagal cadence is ???
I have "worked out" a chord progression I quite like of =
"No Moon=20
At
All". The first part of the tune that has a nice sounding =
descending
bass line. However, can someone help me with the second part of the =
tune
(the bridge and end) ? what chord progression would you play instead =
of
the basic chords ?
The first part goes like this:
Dmin6 |A7/Db |Co |Emin7/B |
Em7b5/Bb |Cbm7b5/A A7#5| 1.
Dmin6 F7 |Bb7 A7 |
2.
Dmin6 |Dmin6 |
This is the part I would like help with
D7 | ./. |G7 | ./. |
|C7 | ./. |FM7 BbM7 |Em7b5 Eb7 =
|
|Dmin6 | ./. | ./. |
Could anybody give me any alternative chord progression for this =
second
section ?
I hope this is not asking too much but I would love any information =
on
how to approach this tune, what key centres, etc=05 I really like =
this
tune and this is my first attempt to concentrate on a song to work
something out. It might not sound like it from the many questions I =
am
asking but I have spent a lot of time on it and I find it difficult =
to
progress any further.
Thanks for your help.
Marco
>Marco Cipolla
>E-Mail :
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:39:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: nettid@flinet.com =
(Antoinette=20
Denofrio)
Subject: Re: boycott Burger King
>The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous affront =
to=20
all
jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until that =
horrible
abomination is taken off the air.
>
>I refer to the 30 second spot where some total idiot who thinks she =
s a
jazz singer attempts to scat sing her way through the "special =
orders don=20
t
upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously out of =
tune, has=20
a
terrible voice better left unheard, and has absolutely no clue as to the =
art
of jazz improvisation, much less, scat singing. I especially cringe when =
she
relapses into the lower register and goes into kind of a folk-singer =
s
nanny-goat substitute for vibrato.
>
>I suspect the ad agency responsible for this aural excrement has a=20
distinct
disdain for music. I m reminded also of the inane "classical music =
is
boring" featuring a cellist a few months ago. The person =
responsible for=20
the
ad is a total musical illiterate or really hates the art by putting =
such
crap on the air.
>
>Please circulate this to as many music lovers as possible.
>
>Win Hinkle
>34skid.com
>
>
>
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>
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>
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thinks she=20
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jazz
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orders=20
don t
>upset us - have it your way" jingle. She is horrendously =
out of=20
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has a
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art of
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>
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"classical music=20
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responsible for
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Geez man you need to buy yourself some decaf! What's the big deal??? I =
mean,
should we really raise hell. Its like I think.....Kenny G should NOT be =
in
the jazz section at the cd store! But I won't boycot the cd store cause =
of=20
it!
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:58:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: LNadien@aol.com
Subject: Re: boycott Burger King
You should boycott this and other fast food chains, not because of 30 =
second
comercials, but for reasons pertaining to health. The burgers contain =
over
50% fat, which is devastating to your cholestral count! Need I say =
more.
&=
nbsp; =20
LNADIEN@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:02:17 -0500
From: DBay@AICI.COM (Dick Bay)
Subject: Re[2]: boycott Burger King
Well, it's not Betty Carter, but I still find =
it=20
reasonably enjoyable
as TV jingles go. But if it makes you =
feel any=20
better, I already
boycott Burger King, just by virtue of being a=20
vegetarian who avoids
junk food.
--Dick Bay *
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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:07:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: SaxtetLee@aol.com
Subject: Re: boycott Burger King
In a message dated 97-07-21 05:20:22 EDT, you write:
>
> The current Burger King television commercial is a hideous =
affront to=20
all
> jazz lovers. All music lovers should boycott Burger King until =
that
horrible
> abomination is taken off the air.
>
Don't you think you are overreacting...maybe just a bit.
Lee Elderton
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