Re: Guitar chord systems redux
reed ( (no email) )
Thu, 15 May 1997 12:36:03 +0100
At 12:45 PM 5/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Kevin Johnsrude wrote:
>>
>> On 13 May 97 at 4:05, reed wrote:
>>
>> >...
>> > Are you really comfortable playing shells, both rooted and rootless?
>> >
>> > I.e. R 3 7 or 3 7 .
>>
>> Yup. Thirds and (flat) sevenths form a diagonal chord across the neck
>> (except for a jump on the B string), sort of like the augmented triad
>> in reverse. Flatting or sharping the thirds and sevenths or adding a
>> root to that is easy.
>>
>
>I hope that this little thread isn't absolutely boring to those on this
>list who don't play guitar, but I have a few other questions
>specifically about implementing 3/7 voicings on guitar.
>
>Kevin's diagonal idea is one of those things I realize now was there all
>along and I just missed it.
>
>I see this fine for min7 and dom7 chords. Somehow, though, playing 3rd
>and Maj7 as a two-note voicing sounds discordant to me.
>
>I am ready and happy to say "Okay, so I train my ear to like it. It's
>right, guitarist and pianists have played 3rd/Maj7 voicings for decades,
>just get over it." So I'm not disagreeing, but for now, while the 3/7
>voicings sound and move very nicely on min7 and dom7, I have trouble
>seeing how to use them well with majors.
>
>I have heard that prior to the Maj7 chord's rise in popularity, many
>jazz players actually played the 6: 1 3 5 6. Might the 3/6 2 note
>voicing work or am I just scrambling to avoid learning to use a sound
>that seems odd to me? Note I have no problem with Maj7 chords, just the
>3/7 voicing here seems not to have the same naturally leading feeling as
>it does with the others.
>
>I am prepared now to learn something from you guys.
>--
>
Well, I don't know.
Are you playing these with a bass player (either BIAB or playalong
or real bass player ....)
You might not like this sound.
Not everyone uses them.
For example, I dont think Joe Pass did at all.
However someone like Lenny Breau I think used them alot.
On piano, Bill Evans used them alot for his left hand comping.
reed
Reed Kotler
reed@justjazz.com
http://www.justjazz.com