Re: Learning Jazz
reed ( (no email) )
Mon, 19 May 1997 09:40:51 +0100
At 09:21 AM 5/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
>At 09:11 AM 5/19/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>Recently Reed Kotler wrote:
>>
>>> If a sixteen year old can play jazz well after a year or two,
>>> I can guarantee you they didnt spend time learning things in twelve keys,
>>> learning to tap on 2 and 4, trying to use chord scales to improvise over
>>> standard tunes, ....
>>
>>Greetings,
>> I am very curious about this. Does anyone know what such a player
>>would be taught to be able to play after a year or two? How much about
>>music did the player know before attempting jazz? Would the instrument
>>being played matter?
>>---
>>Chris Hardin chardin@attmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>Chris,
>
>Well I think they are essentially self taught.
>
>They may have a teacher for learning how to actually play their
>instrument but I think that in general they are putting it all
>together on their own as far being a jazz musician.
>
>On a sad note, I've witnessed the apparent loss of the ability of some
>players when they finally got hooked into "jazz education".
>
>I think that the external pressure from teachers and their peers will
>sometimes overwhelm them and they will start doing things "the right way".
>
>reed
>
>
To clarify a bit....
I think that the wiz kids learn from records (i.e. some form for
transcribing) and they compose/improvise things without reference to
"accpeptable" theory (i.e. they play things that sound good instead of
being told to play in dorian mode).
When you don't know that D dorian is what you play for Dmi7 , you are
force to listen to a Dmi7 chord in the context where it appears and
figure out something that sounds good against it.
reed
>
Reed Kotler
reed@justjazz.com
http://www.justjazz.com