Re: What is enough theory for amateur musicians?

Ian M. Dilley ( (no email) )
Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:21:50 +0000 (GMT)

Some months ago I attended a masterclass by the pianist Hal Galper.
He had a lot to say about practicing jazz as distinct from playing
jazz. He talked about a lot of things you can practice like taking a
little 4 note lick (eg 1235) and playing it over various changes,
playing it backwards, upside down, and in all combinations. He also
claimed that Coltrane's Giant Steps solo consists entirely of just 6
such licks - "You don't need to learn 1000 licks". All this stuff
though was only for practicing. When asked about playing he said
something like "Just get out there and try to do something you've
never done before".

This is typical of jazz musicians as has been commented before. They
often don't seem to know how they actually do what the y do. I think
your language analogy is a good one. You learn the grammar and
vocabulary then forget it and just talk.

Ian.

> >
> Many on this list know a lot more than I do aboutthis subject, but it
> does seem to me that there is a valid distinction between drilling to
> learn basic technique and soloing. It is well known that Charlie Parker
> did spend a long period of his early career practising scales after some
> humiliating bandstand experience. He also drilled on the upper chord
> tones while working at an eating establishment in which Art Tatum
> played. Likewise there are things one does in learning a language as an
> adult (grammar drills, vocabulary memorization, etc.) that have to be
> left behind to gain fluency, but there is no avoiding them at the
> learning stage. On the other hand, some language programs focusing on
> usage have shown that it may not be as necessary or helpful to drill
> every point in the traditional way as was thought. Maybe some of the
> "formula" approaches to soloing are like traditional grammar and
> vocabulary drills-training wheels that you start with, but must move
> beyond.
>
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