Re: guide tones/analysis

Bert Ligon ( BLigon@mozart.music.sc.edu )
Thu, 12 Dec 1996 09:50:47 -0500

>I have asked the simple question ... what were you thinking when you
>played that solo? I expected some type of guide tone, chord/scale,
>etc. discussion, instead I got the answer "I just played what was in
>my head". Some of these soloist could tell me AFTER THE FACT what the
>solo was in terms of harmony, melody, etc. but swore that they did not
>think about such things when playing it.
>
>Am I just naive, or is the technical application of theory concepts
>(chord/scales ...) NOT used by the folks that most of us would hold in
>high esteem as accomplished jazz soloists? This is not to imply that
>the PRACTICE of some of these applied theory concepts did not help them
>develop the seemily intuitive way they solos, but are they really using
>them as they solo? Are these players just "pulling my chain" and
>trying to keep us struggling future soloists in the dark as to how they
>do what they do (what they did I can figure out by transcription, what
>they were thinking to produce the solo I can not).
>
>Mike
>

RE: What jazz improvisers think

So many jazz improvisers are asked what they are thinking about when
soloing. Are they thinking about scales, guide tones, motivic devices. Most
say "no" to all of these things, and in my own case it would be true also.
However, it might be a better question to ask them what they think about
when practicing. At sometime these artists have spent time thinking about
these elements that they are using to make outstanding music. The actual
terms they use, or whether their personal way of verbally expressing what
it is that they do may be interesting, but not necessarily the important
thing. When I learned most of what I know about jazz improvisation, it was
from sitting in front of a tape player and picking out things I thought
sounded good. I learned all the scales, guide-tones, theoretical concepts
long before I learned the conventional names (which are not all
standardized, even in traditional theory).

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