Re: jazz rhythm

Frank Curran ( frankj@curran.Eng.Sun.COM )
Wed, 27 Nov 1996 10:34:58 -0800

This thread gets me thinking. I have often thought that one of me true
regrets is that I never played drums. (Its equally true that one of my
few saving graces is that I never played drums ;-)

But seriously, I know several muscians who have played drums and now
play another instrument, e.g. guitar or sax. It appears to me that
these players have a tremendous instictive(?) sense of the groove.

I wonder if there are exercises that one can do to enhance rhythmic
skills. As a guitar player myself, I have a healthy dose of rhythm
from all the pop/blues/reggae/rock/jazz comping I have done for many
years. But I have never done any woodshedding on it. I could dream up
ideas of what to do but I suspect schooled musicians have drills that
are time tested to be effective.

Its always a pleasure for me to play with someone who uses interesting
rhythmic variety in their comping. This also must flow over into their
soloing skills too.

Frank
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> From: David Kaczorowski <kaczordk@umdnj.edu>
> Subject: Re: jazz rhythm
> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 17:19:43 -0500 (EST)
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> > David:
> > Thanks for youe reply. A rhythmic template could be for example a
> > repeating 3 beat idea in 4/4
> > time.(imagine for example the rhythm of the words "double dubonnet")
> > Start the idea on beat 1 of bar 1 and play it 4 times and you come out on
> > beat 1 of the fourth bar. Start the whole thing on beat 2 of bar 1 and
> > come out on beat 2 of the fourth bar etc. The possibilties are of course
> > endless. I suppose that if you practiced enough of these rhythmic words
> > that you would start to assemble them in different combinations much like
> > we combine and recombine melodic ideas during improvisation.
> >
> > Andrew Trott
> > renmusic@sympatico.ca
> >
> >
> This is what I was elluding to in my post last week, recommending the
> Latin stuff as a source for ideas and so on. The above and subsequent
> posts lead me to believe that my definition of polyrhythm is incorrect.
> If what you describe are rhythm templates or metric modulation, what then
> is polyrhythm? Or, is polyrhythm the combination of two or more rhythm
> templates? I'd appreciate some clarification.
> BTW, I meant to say in my last post that the key to playing stuff like
> this "spontaneously" is learning how to think rhythmically on multiple
> levels like the way a drummer thinks.
>
> Peace,
> David Kaczorowski
> kaczordk@umdnj.edu
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